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You can control things, both in the abstract and in the world. And then you can generalize from there that having more holes is higher genus. EL: Yeah, the world is very interesting, but yeah I don't know if I've seen this kind of food there. And we combine these all, combine these priors, and this is the answer. Yeah. So you said this caused a debate. Can you introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about yourself? And a few years ago, we expanded to LA. Or where could I sub out a different space or a different set of assumptions about a function or something and get something new. They relate that to how sometimes third party candidates can be a spoiler for an election even though overall, it looks like a plurality of voters might prefer one candidate over another. DL: Yeah. I do get to talk about it, but it's not in a class that I would teach the material on. EL: Well, you never know the connections that might happen though because I was talking to someone one time who basically his big break to get to go to grad school came because, like, somehow he was involved in like parking enforcement somewhere, and some math professor called in to complain about, like, getting a ticket, and one thing led to another and then he ended up in grad school. So it's just like, oh, as if I pandemic sweeping through town was not enough. And so just having that conversation. CC: Nothing. Select the department you want to search in. So the idea was, this would be something that even beginning college students or even high school students would be learning. EL: Yeah, that's a good one. RH: Yeah, I should have this memorized. There was a video recorded. AW: And then the final one is that, you know, in the music space, what is it that we really should be trying to do, value everybody's voice? Perspective from a point seems really easy to think about, and perspective from a line, I just have trouble getting it into my brain. And I was like, “Oh, yeah, actually, this is pretty cool. But he said if you make a list of, you know—pretend that you have a list of all the real numbers and you put them, you know, 1, 2, 3, 4, you put them in correspondence with the natural numbers, and then you go down diagonally, first digit of the first number, second digit of the second number, third digit of the third number, and so on. And I mean, maybe I do want to say, in honor of work with collaborators, that math sent me on sort of an unusual journey, as I mentioned in the beginning. But so I remember being in a course, like I say, as a teaching assistant, where it was called A Course in Mathematics for Students of Physics, based on a book by Shlomo Sternberg, at Harvard, and Paul Bamberg, who's a physicist there too, and a very good teacher. And and then it's really fun when you tell them, “Well, is there something in between?” They’re like, “Of course! And yeah, I don't know, that for some reason that came to mind, but it's been a long time since I did research and was keeping up with, you know, proving things. So you've got, you know, cherry or whatever, and then you start to infuse it with the next flavor. And otherwise, I write for publications like Quanta, Scientific American, Financial Times, and others. They usually serve it in aluminum foil, and it's made—it's a mixture like tamales. So it's just a line of slope −1, right, with y-intercept 1−1/√(q−1). And we don't actually consider it an error if you fix the mistake. Okay. KK: I did my degree there too. So is this related to looking at whether there are more of the ones that are one more one less or things like that? But then that works for finite sets, but you can extend it to an infinite set.You can say, for example, that two infinite sets are the same size if I can find a matching between every element in the first set and every element in the second set. And you're like, “Oh, there's more here.” And then you teach calculus, and you’re like, “Ohhhh!” Hi, Kevin. So the same way that the rational is being dense in the reals blows my mind. We're doing it to model what what needs to happen from everybody in this discipline, to really say the things that need to be said. Yeah. There's no way you cannot find our course notes if you remember the name of your school, what you're studying and my name.” Yeah. But I can still apply the theorem. If you're going to go looking for a needle in the haystack, you do, in fact, want to know there's a needle in it. RG: Yeah, that's right. And Evelyn, it's funny that you should bring up factoring integers, because you know that the form of cryptography that we use today to make it safe to use our credit cards on the internet, that’s very much at risk when quantum computers are developed. And in category theory, it's very analogous. So here's the connection. I love these categories. If you're listening to this in the future, and somehow, everything is under control by the time we publish this, which seems unlikely, we are recording this during the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic, right, which—I guess it still stays COVID-19 even though it's 2020 now, to represent the way time has not moved forward. And so the number of rooms and the number of people are the same—the word is cardinality because you don't want to say number because you can't count that. How does this idea translate when you're talking about, say, shadows of more complicated objects that might be smooth? EL: Yeah. EL: Fantastic. So is that the kind of research you do? So those are cultural values that are not assumed in the current conversations, but for many communities in many Indigenous nations, those are some things that are real and necessary to think about. AW: I was about to say. KK: I can still buy dog food at Amazon. It’s how the information affects it.” And I went, “Okay!” And so, as with all PhDs, you have this pile of reading, which is apparently going to be really, really good for you. I’m Kevin Knudson, professor of mathematics, almost always at the University of Florida these days. So I’ll mention this last thing, but this paper has been nicknamed by Don Zagier: Mordell is as easy as ABC. EL: Yeah. And it's a really nice podcast. And it's just like, Okay, I'm just at the scene of the trauma, which is my bike seat, and getting over it. So that one, already right there it’s a pop song about taxes, which is already, so lyrically, we're exploring different parts of the possibility space than musicians were before. JW: Right. EL: Huh. KK: It is 66 today. Thanks for having me on the program. aBa Mbirika: Oh, hello. SD: Moving forward as we talk about the Jordan curve theorem, let's just keep in mind two great examples of simple closed curves: the letter O, and even the capital letter D. It's fine that that D has some angles, in the bottom left and upper left. You're nodding, do you know what I mean? KK: So if we could see the map of the US, there'd be these nice isoclines. Are they happy for you to not give an exact answer? And the Machinery of Empire—the reason that I invited you on here is because I just read Ninefox Gambit a few weeks ago and just thought, you know, this person sure uses a lot of math terms for a novel! EL: But yeah, it's it's because of like the history of Mormon missionaries. EL: Great. So it isn't just Aris and I going back and forth at telling you things. So the committee basically had to decide, is this an award for the top mathematicians? Also because it would have been a tremendous time suck. SD: Yeah, well, lately, I've been writing for Quanta magazine, which has been very exciting. Well, I had another category mind, which is, theorems where the proofs are just so darn cute. I think I was in physics— I had eight majors, different majors through the time—I wasn't a math person yet. To calculate the overall star rating and percentage breakdown by star, we don’t use a simple average. Here is a short collection of links that might be interesting. Interesting. And that that must be an especially important issue in LA, because I know the LAPD has been the subject of some, I guess, investigations and inquiries into their practices and things like that. I am not now nor have I ever been a teenager girl, so I am necessarily distanced by age and gender from "The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants." Yeah, it was nice to meet you. I even mentioned it to my class that’s non-math majors, just looking at sets, basic set theory. Like the band, but I can't do that usually, though. AC: And the point is a point in projective space. Stream KK: Yeah. KK: Clever. And yeah, I don’t have that completely straight. Yeah. That's what I would say. DL: And then there's the case of the five orange pips or something, which actually in a timely way crucially involves the KKK. KK: Yeah, this has been great fun. It's like, I feel like I always had to just kind of hold on to it and pray. We’re outdoors, and we're not paying for stuff, and there's no bar, and there's no drinking. No. So I did a second postdoc at Courant at NYU, and then started getting ideas of how I could tackle some questions in neuroscience using mathematics. He was about five years older than Schwartz. KK: Let’s go with Koch [pronounced “coke”]. You don't have to use tape. But let's go to Fq instead of F2, so q is any prime power. We just have an awful lot of fun finding patterns in numbers. Yeah. And so I may not have run into it then. So older than he was anyway. So 1 times 100. And I think this was the first time that I really understood what a proof by contradiction was. But it has to do basically with scaling. EL: Oh, awesome. SC: So, I am going to say that Bayes' theorem is like a risotto. If I were to put all the, like, uniqueness of my favorite food, my favorite drink and my favorite theorem, I would put them in a location which is Tayrona in Colombia, at the beach, eating ceviche sipping on some champagne, learning Zeckendorf’s theorem. Yeah, they're definitely still bad drawings is my feeling. And I worked on Calabi-Yaus and, you know, extra dimensions and this kind of stuff. But when it comes down to it, it's all linear algebra tricks. KK: Yeah. Yeah. KK: Right, right. EL: Yeah. Well, today we are pleased to welcome Ben Orlin. And at that point, every kid in the room whipped their head around to look at me, and the professor looked at me, like what is wrong with you? And indeed, that's the case. So imagine you're drawing the Italian flag going back into the distance, right? KK: Linear Algebra can make you billions of dollars. And when we were there, there was this delightful Colombian hotdog place. And so we were like, you know, we've gotten to a place where we've given all these talks, and then you give talks, create momentum, and then it just ends. And Noam Elkies has this paper ABC implies Mordell, so Faltings’ theorem, so this theorem about numbers of points on curves. BO: So Kevin and I can probably go to track by track for you. EL: Yeah. So that's one aspect of the theorem that sort of establishes this definition. So when I was six years old, in 1975, my parents thought it would be a good idea to take me to the drive-in to see Jaws. JW: Very much so. I'm sorry, this happened to you.” But the truth is that white supremacy is in everything within the mathematical sciences. EL: But yeah, it's like this is an alternative to the Ice Bucket Challenge of category theory. And then an opportunity came to serve a broader Santa Fe, New Mexico community, where I also serve communities that are near and dear to my heart, where I've been here for over 30 years. EL: Yeah. KK: Sure. Because it requires a deep interrogation, a self-interrogation by white people to really deal with the feelings. And then and then you win. EL: The real world is impossible. So meaning, in what other ways could you create a sequence of numbers that allows you to uniquely write any positive integer in this kind of flavor, right, that you don't use things consecutively, and consecutively, really, in quotes, because you can define that differently. And then when you actually do it, you're like, “Whoa, that's a little weird.” And then I just get to say, “Oh, you don't have to do this anymore.” I mean, I've had a few students go, you know, now that we do — I always use the antiderivative of x squared on zero to 10, or the area under the curve of x squared from zero to 10. And it was hard to even figure out where the heck the triangles were. And this is your other host. EL: Yeah. And this is your other host. KK: Sure. EL: Yeah. PH: Listen, that thing is delicious. My bad. And it's beautifully simple, and all it does is let you take everything that you know and every piece of information that you have, and use that to update the overall outcome. And I, you know, I can't speak to it, but experts are chipping away, chipping away. EL: You know, we get rule breakers on here. So the simplest example is this: I start off, I’m on a sphere, and I start at the North Pole and I walk to the equator. KK: I’m Kevin Knudson, a professor of mathematics at the University of Florida. RG: Yes. EL: Yes. JW: I know, I’m sorry. And it's no big deal. EL: Got knocked out on diaphoresis. MB: Yeah. It’s been a big pastime for me. So the Gilbert-Varshamov bound is from 1952. And when I was in graduate school at CUNY, my research was using ideas in mathematics, including category theory, to sort of tackle similar problems. Adriana Salerno: Hi. Got a hotel room just to sit around and watch hockey, as it turns out. And then something that had a very difficult proof. AW: I appreciate that. Like you're picturing a line, maybe you're thinking of a parabola, maybe something with a few more squiggles, maybe as many squiggles as a sine wave going up and down. So we can represent this number, and everybody knows this when you're in junior math, I guess in elementary school, that we can write the number—now I'm using a pen—123 as 3 times 1 plus—how many tens do we have? And they have these little examples, or these little summaries, like so-and-so died on this day and contributed to this theory, and it’s just kind of morbid to celebrate them for when they died. I haven't looked at them deeply recently. I mean, it has applications in so many fields of applied math and in pure math, and so it's just one of those things that gives you respect for even seemingly simple and not obviously, it doesn't bowl you over, right, you can see the statement and you're not like, “Wow, that's so powerful!” But it ends up that it's actually the key thing you need in so many applications. KK: Well, oh wait, it's not 4/20 anymore. CC: And so one part of the theorem is that that eigenvalue is unique and real and positive. I'm not supposed to—it should be coming out April 15. KK: Negative populations aren't good. KK: Really? Howard Masur: Okay, thank you. And I'm trying to think, like, Lucas numbers are another number sequence that are kind of built this way. TDB: That’s right. We’ll see. And that might be just, what's the chance of something happening? KK: Okay, so we're doing algebraic geometry now, right? It's on mine too, surprisingly, which is right behind me, actually, if you have the video on. EL: Yay, I'm so glad that someone will be talking about this! And like, sometimes I'll say, “Oh, that's 1000 over 3, right?” And then it was like, “Well, how did you do that so quickly?” We'll see. And that's what it is, right? But now, you know, maybe What Is Life by George Harrison? And all of a sudden, here's this category theory, curveball. And so those contributions end up cancelling. It was almost like a kind of psychoanalysis for myself, I think, because I did have a lot of guilty feelings about that relationship, which, you know, if you do read the book, anyone listening, you'll see what I felt guilty about, and I deserved to feel guilty. I'm originally from Caracas, Venezuela, so quite a ways away. Neither of us had ever learned any projective geometry. I mean, I did the mass media fellowship in 2007. Oh yes, I’m sorry. Is that okay? It looks good. And I mean, I think Evelyn and I are just dying to know what pairs well with Dirichlet’s theorem on primes in arithmetic progressions. And so if you look at the eigenvector itself, that you get from your web matrix, that will give you a ranking of web pages. KK: Diaphoresis. And that approach has been really formative for me and my scholarship. If you try to imagine them as three-dimensional, if you draw them as three-dimensional, the proof becomes more obvious. And the nice thing is that it's very accessible, and then it leads to really beautiful generalizations of these kinds of results like that of Zeckendorf. It's like the hotel. KK: Okay. KK: I learned something. KK: Well, then you can really blow their minds then when you show them the Cantor set, right? EL: Yeah, because I really do feel like linear algebra almost feels like some of the most tangible math., and category theory, to me, feels like some of the least tangible. Okay. I think he probably would have said that—I really do think that he in particular would have said that to any student. Into Taxman, which is probably, it's not my favorite Beatles song, but it's certainly among the top four. You mentioned Brownian motion, right? I don't remember how many dimensions you get. So anyway, this is not my favorite theorem. But a lot of ways there's a significant part of our experiences that is tied to having to continuously fight against this type of oppression against us. EL: Because really, it’s such a great theorem. This is math just completely losing touch with physical reality and giving us these weird intellectual puzzles and strange constructions that can't possibly mean anything to real human beings. I'm a freelance math writer in Salt Lake City, Utah. I mean, science fiction writers totally do that. And so that's another way of seeing that. So yeah, I don't really have much taste for the difficult and the subtle. How many hundreds do we have? DL: That one is also excellent. It’s not something that came from nowhere. And so to me, this is a really interesting example of sort of how art informs math rather than the other way around. EL: For these infinite number. EL: Yeah, I like that. Now my revenge is perfect.—Sink, thou main cause Kills FERDINAND. Like, I guess, you know, if you pick the largest one less than your number, then it's more than halfway there. Before I do that, let me also connect conformal, as I had mentioned, to complex analysis. KK: I’ve written that same thing on a chalkboard. EL: Yeah. I'm more of, like, an avid fan of category theory. Because, you know, maybe you'll read them. KK: Well, you know, about as pleasant as it sounds. SC: I am! EL: Oh, I just love this theorem so much. I’m really excited to join you for today's podcast. TDB: Right, which is like, I can't remember, but I think it's wrapped up with a white wrapper with question marks all over it. So I think that's a great question. EL: So yeah, great year for reading about calculus, but I think Ben would prefer that you start that reading with Change Is the Only Constant. So lots of symbols, lots of everything. And so by thinking of buckets, the numbers that you can fill the buckets with, that you couldn't create from grabbing numbers out of previous buckets under certain rules, you now start constructing a sequence. SC: Well, there were discussions about whether it was my favorite drink with [a bag of crisps? PH: You’re asking questions I should know the answer to, and I believe it’s the Caribbean. Let's start talking about what we can have. No? And I mean, I think that's one of the things that you learn, especially in grad school, is just how to start looking at statements of theorems and stuff and seeing where might there be some wiggle room here? When I was at the Institute of American Indian arts, most of the students there, they're there for art. So yeah. I'm in my office, sadly, a lot of hours of the day, but sometimes I leave my office and go to the pub down the road. So in 1978—and Kevin, now we can talk about algebraic geometry. JW: Exactly. Or can we figure out what he—maybe he had something, but what mistake might he have made? And what those letters show is that Bohr basically constructs this idea of what the metal is supposed to be for in a strategic way to allow Schwartz to win. So 2 times 10. So I am currently a postdoc at X. And I always liken it to Audrey Hepburn. And we were talking. I like this interaction. And that's how I ended up on the mathematics side. Below are some links you might enjoy as you listen to the episode.Arrow's impossibility theoremCardinal voting, an alternative to voting systems that are based on ranking the optionsOur episode with Henry Fowler, who was at the time on the faculty of Diné College and is now at Navajo Technical UniversityOur episode with Moon Duchin, who studies gerrymandering, among other thingsBelin Tsinnajinnie on Twitter. But all of these things are related to each other. EL: I don't want to find out the answer because I love that answer. Exactly. So it was at the very beginning of my life as a math writer. Steve Strogatz: Well, wow, thank you. KK: Yeah. Great theorem. EL: But okay, so you say that, but on the other hand, I would say that bad pizza is still really good. And so they, again, no one's going to fix that for them. So these are the functions that only have poles at this chosen point of multiplicity, at most the degree that we've chosen. Right? LK: You know, I was really wrestling with this. So the codes are what does the correcting. And it requires a big leap of imagination to just think of doing this and realizing that you could make a number that was not on this infinite list by just doing that simple trick. And for genus two or higher curves, it turns out to be true that there are only finitely many rational points on a genus two or higher curve. So there was something very, very special about simply connected. Maybe? And I am really excited to introduce people to these beautiful sub-sequences that exist in this Fibonacci sequence mod 10. Or maybe if we rise up and request more streaming options for the movie. 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